Interview with Prof Bernard Debré, Member of the French Parliament
Bernard Debré, Medical Professor, MP (UMP) of Paris and member of the national ethics committee, is claiming the opposite of what the prime minister declared on Friday. While François Fillon was alarmed in face of the “unavoidable” pandemic of the A-H1N1 flu, Bernard Debré thinks that the whole matter is exaggerated.
Le Journal du Dimanche: You are one of those who think that there is too much fuzz about the A-H1N1 flu. But can there be a “too much” if the purpose is to check a pandemic?
Bernard Debré: This flu is not dangerous. We have become aware that it is possibly even a little less dangerous than the seasonal flu. The drill has to be stopped now!
Aren’t you exaggerating a little?
This type of flu has been expected and caused a lot of fear. We all remembered the phenomenon of the bird flu H5N1 which was very dangerous with a mortality rate of 60-65%, but not infectious because it could not cross the species barrier. We feared a new combination of genes which could have produced a very virulent and infectious virus. This lottery has taken place. However, it has produced a good number: H1N1. We were scared of a Jack of Spades, but we got a Queen of Hearts…
After the incidents in Mexico, states had to react…
In Mexico, the flu caused deaths after it had just broken out. As with all new illnesses against which the body has not yet developed a defense, mainly young people and less young, but somewhat handicapped, underfed und weakened people were affected… All measures were taken to develop a vaccine quickly, isolate the sick and follow the daily statistics … This is a life-size drill for the medical army of a state which takes to the defense against an evil which one day might appear. But one day it will be time to stop the drill.
Why stop it now when the war is announced for the fall season?
All we do serves the only purpose of producing fear. Yes, this flu is spreading very fast. So what? One sick person infects two or three others while only one is infected with the classical flu. Still it is ‘Grippchen’ (dwarf flu), not an Ebola or a Marburg… Besides, I have noticed that the public offices, without declaring it publicly, have already started to switch back by one gear. The sick – it is no longer checked if they have H1N1 or just a simple cold – are now told to take Paracetamol.
You are accusing the states of a panicking reaction?
From the time when the WHO has commenced to become active, a little too fast, with daily press bulletins and repeated press conferences, governments had no real choice but to follow all this. I am reproaching them with having yielded later to the commercialization of the event in media and politics.
Is this also true for France?
Of course! There are 800 registered cases in France. This is a joke! Will we now start tracking diarrhea cases? We should have declared it openly from the beginning: We are part of a life-size drill, period. There is no need to drive the populations crazy unless you want to drum the following message into peoples’ heads: Folks, sleep without fear, we are watching over you.
You have vigorously contradicted Roselyne Bachelot during the debate over the Hospital Act. Is your criticism of her plan to fight the flu also an act of political retaliation?
I am not accusing Roselyne Bachelot. She is not more responsible than the MP of the Green Party in the National Assembly who demanded that the health minister accounts for the number of watertight suits and the quality of the masks…
So the error is a political one …
No, because, I am repeating myself, the approach was justified in the beginning. Nevertheless, it is an economic error. I do not understand why the state has placed a binding order of 100 million doses of vaccine. It would have been possible to let the laboratories develop the products and then order vaccines according to the needs. We already know that the vaccines will not be produced before November 15. This means that they will not be finished before the first peak of infection is already over. What should be done with the hundreds of millions of stored masks? Should we force those infected with the seasonal flu to wear them? What seems even worse to me is the fact that hospital beds and ambulances were claimed for the drill, depriving other sick persons of time to recover.
The prime minister speaks of millions of infections. Isn’t your pointed position a little bold?
At the moment, we have some 800 deaths worldwide with the infection rate currently reaching its peak in the Southern Hemisphere. These figures say a lot. Of course, this virus could mutate and become virulent. But the majority of virologists do not share this point of view at the moment… Let us assume that this worst case becomes reality. Can we safely assume that the vaccines ordered will be effective? No.
Has our society become over-cautious?
It is the apocalypse syndrome. Man was created by a virus and will die from a virus. It has always been like this. Before the virus, there was fear of microbes, pest and cholera. Mankind has won this battle. So beware the revenge of the virus! •
Source: Le Journal du Dimanche, 25 July 2009
Translation Current Concerns
WHO in collaboration with the pharmaceutical industry
Klaus Stöhr, head of the influenza-vaccine-program of the World Health Organisation (WHO) and of the bird flu-campaign of the WHO 2005/2006 changed subsequently to the Pharma-Group Novartis, which right now would like to bring ”Optaflu”, the new influenza-vaccine against the swine flu, on the market. Stöhr had already managed with the bird flu to sell a non-existing illness for humans so, that billions of taxpayers’ money were spent on medication. It then did not matter that the ”bird flu” did not exist at all for humans and that therefore the stashed medicaments even were not tested clinically for this application with humans. Now Novartis aims for a purchase guarantee for its recent authorized ”Optaflu”-vaccine.
Source: Wodarg-Blog from 4 August 2009
Criticism on the unprecedented vaccination campaign also comes from the Länder. ”If the course of the swine flu stays as harmless as it has been so far, a mass vaccination program would not be justifiable”, says Matthias Gruhl, head of the Health Department in Bremen and responsible for the pandemic plan.
Source: Spiegel Online from 1 August 2009
Swine flu jab link to killer nerve disease: Leaked letter reveals concern of neurologists over 25 deaths in America
A warning that the new swine flu jab is linked to a deadly nerve disease has been sent by the Government to senior neurologists in a confidential letter. (…) It tells the neurologists that they must be alert for an increase in a brain disorder called Guillain-Barre Syndrome (GBS), which could be triggered by the vaccine. (..) The letter, sent to about 600 neurologists on July 29, is the first sign that there is concern at the highest levels that the vaccine itself could cause serious complications. (…) Concerns have already been raised that the new vaccine has not been sufficiently tested and that the effects, especially on children, are unknown.
Source: www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1206807/Swine-flu-jab-killer.nerve-disease-Leaked-letter-reveals-concern-neurologists-25-deaths-America.html
”What we experience here, is a large scale experiment on the German population.”
Wolfgang Becker-Brüser, editor of the ”medicine-telegram”, criticised the planned mass vaccination against the swine flu in Germany.
Source: Spiegel Online from 1 August 2009
$8 billion for pharmaceutical companies
Nearly $8 billion will be spent to address a “potential pandemic flu” which could result in mandatory vaccinations for no discernable reason other than to enrich the pharmaceutical companies that make the vaccine.
Source: www.campaignforliberty.com/article.php?view=119
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